History Channel 9/11 Truth Hit Piece

August 20th, 2007

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Related Content: The History Channel’s take on 9/11
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If Anyone Wasn’t Convinced….

HIT PIECE.

BulletPoints:
(so far :30 minutes in)
* No Mention of Steven Jones
* No Mention of WTC 7
* Lots of Crappy Fetzer
* No Admission by History Channel of Their Conflict of Interest

* Finally Steven Jones, but no true intro to Jones

* Gene Corley lies
crap… from the anti truth crowd.

This whole “debate seqment” about the tower collaspe is Horseshit.

Sofia Sofquat included. Pleeeeeese

* the steel was naked……..

* the quality of debate is not as good as even that of at SLC Blog.

* Meigs… Giant Accordian (Give me a break!)

* This is such a sad attempt by History Channel

* Nothing about Rivero’s statement (from New Mexico Schools of Mines) right after 9/11 and retraction.

Dr. Van D. Romero, a doctor of physics and vice president for Research and Development at New Mexico Tech, first made his expert opinion known in an Albuquerque Journal news article days after 911. He later recanted, giving no explanation.

* More Fetzer face time. Arrrrrrrg.

* Unidentifed person says building couldn’t have been wired with explosives knowing exactly where planes would hit. (au contraire!)

continuing…
* Meigs and others about Pentagon. Idiotcy.

* Structural Engineer in green….like an avalanch of snow, etc. , all of this is horse hockey.

almost the end of 2nd 1/2 hour
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… paraphasing…. it’s that evil internet that spreads these crazy conspiracy theories….

Val McClatchy.
silly photo, it probably is real..

* Nothing said so far about the low utilization of seats by passengers in all 4 flights
* Nothing said about Flight 93 not being a standing scheduled flight prior to 9/11.
* Michael Hynes is a fool
* Meigs continues to be an embarrassment

* Alex Jones may be half right (about the debris field). As usual, Jones hurts the process of making an honest case.

* Todd Beamer evidence did not explain the details (Beamer talking to another agent at GTE first). Not wanting to call his wife.

* DRG’s claim may be meaningless. Loose Change, MarkBingham evidence is thin.

* History Channel plucks the “heart-strings”.

Now 9:10 CST.

This white-wash of the issues will only convince the 98% of Americans who aren’t paying attention.

* No discussion of War Games
* No discussion of the fact that the 9/11 Commission have stated publicly that the Miltary lied in testimony about the flights, notification of Norad, scrambling, etc.

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Next seqment..
*WTC 7

I guess that had to include WTC 7s.

* Arrrrg. More Sofia
* Davin Coburn is worthless (Pop. Mech.)
* Meigs is full of it talking again.
* Jones doesn’t talk about Justice Dept. evidence in WTC 7. (possibly OK City Bombing related)
* Meigs is an expert???? (highlighting on screen)
* Incorrect words on screen (about what anyone claims about Silverstein)

* Brent Blanchard is worthless at every turn.

History Channel is recycling completely worthless “debunking”.

Ah yes… the building’s unique structure… the trusses.

Debunker claim: We now know the scooped out wall was significant.

Debunkers is offering embarrassing mumbo jumbo.

History Channel finally admits 1st NIST report was due in 2004.

(cut to commercial)

MIHOP, LIHOP

Etc.

Michael Scheuer is full of it. (Govt. can’t keep a secret).

Relative of a deceased person: “Conspiracy Theories” a knife stabbing me in the heart.

Tim Ryan (fire fighter, not sure I have his name right) is a know nothing.

(cut to commercial)
Looks like History Channel is going to completely ignore the iron spherical particles in ground zero dust research of Steven Jones.

* More silly Meigs

According to History Channel….Cell Phone calls question “thoroughly debunked”. Outrageous.

History Channel focuses on Loose Change guys as the end all and be all.

Chip Berlet again. Shithead.

On camera… Alex Jones. sort of a shithead too.

Meigs…. This man deserves no respect.

Bottom Line: According to History Channel, people who have concerns about about what happened on 9/11 are egotistical, narcissistic and have espoused an impossible certainly about their alternative theories.

Did Somebody Need to Get Rid of Evidence? (Updated)

August 19th, 2007

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8/19/2007
Blogger Thoughts:

Nothing to see here, just move along.

2 Firefighters Are Killed in Blaze at Ground Zero – New York Times

The cause of the fire was under investigation, though officials ruled out acetylene torches, which were not in use Saturday by workers dismantling the building. Investigators are looking into whether the fire was started by a worker smoking, an official said.

ABC News: Firefighters Die in Blaze by Ground Zero

Officers at the scene were preventing nearby residents from returning to their homes, telling them that authorities were concerned the former Deutsche Bank office building, vacant since the 2001 terrorist attacks turned it into a toxic nightmare, could fall. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said that fear turned out to be unfounded.

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8/18/2007
TBO.com – News From AP

Skyscraper Burns Near Ground Zero

NEW YORK (AP) — A three-alarm fire in the abandoned Deustche Bank [Deutsche Bank] skyscraper sent a plume of gray smoke trailing above ground zero Saturday afternoon, though there were no immediate reports of injuries, authorities said.

The tower, left vacant since it was badly damaged during the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, had flames on multiple floors, according to the Fire Department. Construction crews had been in the process of taking the building’s 40 stories down floor by floor.

The cause of the fire was not immediately known.

The 1.4-million square foot office tower was contaminated with toxic dust and debris after the World Trade Center’s south tower collapsed into it. Efforts to dismantle it were halted by a labor dispute last year, along with the ongoing search for the remains of attack victims.

Official Loose Change Blog: Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY

August 19th, 2007

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Blogger Thoughts:

As I watch this video, I consider if there is any way that the probable truth about 9/11 can be captured in new release of Loose Change. This firefighter testimony is valuable in many ways. However, there are so many pieces to the puzzle.

There seems no doubt in my estimation that the evidence goes completely against the idea that commercial airliners hit the towers on 9/11. What really happened instead, and how the official story was broadcast as a cover up is worthy of hours of a video presentation to itself.

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Official Loose Change Blog: Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY

Official Loose Change Blog

8.08.2007


Interview With John Schroeder, FDNY

Loose Change version:

WeAreChange version:

9/11 Firefighter Sets the Historical Record Straight

By Manny Badillo, Victim’s Family Member, August 7th, 2007

BROOKLYN, N.Y. – Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspects of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks any corroborates many other eyewitnesses testimony.

“Standing outside the firehouse with my buddies, we were talking about how beautiful the day was. Then just like that, our lives changed forever. Some of those guys I would never see again.”

In this exclusive interview, Firefighter Schroeder recollects in great detail how he was one of the first firefighters to rush to the complex. “We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?’ and then went straight into the Marriot building” From there, Firefighter Schroeder made his way to the lobby of the North Tower. “It looked like a bomb went off, and we started making our way up the stairs to rescue as many people as we could.”

As they were making there way up the floors, Firefighter Schroeder heard a huge explosion. “The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal.”

Firefighter Schroeder made it all the way up to the 23rd floor before barely hearing on the failing radios that another plane was coming in. That plane would hit the South Tower, though for some reason, “We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe. We were all shocked because it seemed as if there was fire everywhere, on so many floors. It just didn’t make sense”.

The stairwells were black, and at that point, firefighters were making the decision to head back down stairs. In making there way down to the third floor, they were not able to find an exit. “The lobby was like a war zone. We could not find our way out. Then, all of a sudden, one of the maintenance workers had a key that opened a back door that got us out of there. He saved my life.” That worker was Willie Rodriguez. “I want to thank him from the bottom of my heart.”

Firefighter Schroeder today has lost 40% of his lung capacity. “We haven’t been treated properly at all. From the day of the attack, our physical and mental health has deteriorated and it seems as if no one cares. To lose friends, to have to recover their bodies in the days after, to be offered no protections against that horrific-smelling dust that was everywhere even though the government said the air was OK to breathe is just not right.” Some of Firefighter’s Schroeder’s best friends have gotten out of the FDNY altogether while others accepted money and trips to help. “I stayed right here and did the right thing and now it feels as if I’m suffering the most. Where is our government to help the one’s with the toughest jobs on that day and the days after?”

McWay Waterfall

August 19th, 2007

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McWay Waterfall
Originally uploaded by flopper

It was a nice day yesterday to enjoy the coast with the sunny weather.

Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park , California

Have a good weekend everyone!

Cannonfire Makes Sense

August 18th, 2007

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Cannonfire

The Padilla case contains many outrageous details. The one I find most intriguing concerned the so-called Al Qaeda terrorist training “application form”:

A covert CIA officer — who testified in disguise at Padilla’s trial — said he was given the form in Afghanistan, and a fingerprint expert found Padilla’s prints on the form, prosecutors said.”The al Qaeda application virtually sealed his fate,” said Jonathan Turley, a professor at George Washington University Law School. He compared the document’s value as evidence to “putting a duffle bag with severed heads on the table.”

But Michael Caruso, Padilla’s defense attorney, said the prints on the form were not consistent with someone who filled out the document.

“Jose at some point handled the document, but did not fill out the form,” Caruso said.

Tricking a mentally incapacitated man into handling a document doesn’t strike me as a difficult task. Even so, I believe that there are ways to transfer a fingerprint onto a page without direct contact.

In an earlier post, I argued that Padilla — a gang member doing time for a murder committed as a juvenile — made a deal in which he was agreed to do undercover work in exchange for being allowed to go free. I am hardly the only person to consider this theory, which would go some ways toward explaining the government’s fixation on this man.

Did Somebody Need to Get Rid of Evidence?

August 18th, 2007

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TBO.com – News From AP

Skyscraper Burns Near Ground Zero

NEW YORK (AP) — A three-alarm fire in the abandoned Deustche Bank [Deutsche Bank] skyscraper sent a plume of gray smoke trailing above ground zero Saturday afternoon, though there were no immediate reports of injuries, authorities said.

The tower, left vacant since it was badly damaged during the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, had flames on multiple floors, according to the Fire Department. Construction crews had been in the process of taking the building’s 40 stories down floor by floor.

The cause of the fire was not immediately known.

The 1.4-million square foot office tower was contaminated with toxic dust and debris after the World Trade Center’s south tower collapsed into it. Efforts to dismantle it were halted by a labor dispute last year, along with the ongoing search for the remains of attack victims.

Padilla Case Offers New Model of Terrorism Trial – New York Times

August 18th, 2007

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Padilla Case Offers New Model of Terrorism Trial – New York Times

There were two perfectly predictable schools of thought being expressed after the conviction of Jose Padilla on Thursday on terrorism-related charges. Supporters of the Bush administration said the conviction justified the more than three years Mr. Padilla spent in military detention before his criminal prosecution, while the administration’s opponents said the verdict proved that the criminal justice system should have handled the case in the first place.

A Case Study in Scientific Discovery – Telic Thoughts

August 18th, 2007

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A Case Study in Scientific Discovery – Telic Thoughts

When scientists face the question of a teleological origin of life, many view this as an extraordinary claim in need of extraordinary evidence. Yet what exactly is extraordinary evidence? Marshall’s claims were perceived as being rather extraordinary (enough to label them crazy), yet it’s difficult to see in what way his accumulated evidence were “extraordinary.” More problematic is that while a teleological origin of life may be considered an extraordinary event, there is no reason whatsoever to think extraordinary evidence would follow from this event. Put simply, the evidence for ID behind the OOL may be subtle. And if that is the case, can subtle, indirect evidence for X ever overcome the social and psychological dynamics that oppose X?

Figure 5 in Thagard’s second paper is most illuminating.

Breitbart.tv » Greedy Twin Sisters Scam Pentagon for $20 Million

August 18th, 2007

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Breitbart.tv » Greedy Twin Sisters Scam Pentagon for $20 Million

The shipping and billing scam went on for a decade. One of the sisters shot herself when investigators started asking questions.

Breitbart.tv » Experts Remove ‘Nightmare’ Leaping Fanged Baboon Spider from NY Home

August 18th, 2007

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Breitbart.tv » Experts Remove ‘Nightmare’ Leaping Fanged Baboon Spider from NY Home

“This is the kind of spider that nightmares are made of,” said the SPCA chief. It can jump three feet, and has half-inch fangs. The owner could no longer deal with his freak pet.